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From: "seeklektek" <eclectics@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:54:28 -0800
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>From: "chthonic"
>> also, i think 'the sylvie and babs hi-fi companion' was a
precursor
quoted 5 lines to what people now call "plunderphonics".>> to what people now call "plunderphonics".
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>Nah. John Oswald was doing the Mystery Tapes
>way before any of that Stapleton stuff.
hmm...it seems so, since a page i read dates his work from 1975
(3 years prior to the first NWW and 10 years before "s&b").
but were they actually released? anywhere stapleton could have
heard them? the same page says "The first two plunderphonic
releases, a 1988 EP and a 1989 full-length CD", which would
place those releases after the NWW LP.
it also says "Mystery Tapes, a series of compilation cassettes
resembling aural magazines, offering a collage of music, voices,
and sound...Sound sources were taken out of context, voices were
removed from their associated faces, and songs were presented
on their own merit."
that could just be a poor description, but this sounds a bit less like
stapleton's collage style and more like a kind of bizarro mixtape, or
at least halfway between.
"Many of the ideas first presented in these tapes would be
explored further as Oswald began to develop his idea of
plunderphonics in the late 1980s." this again sounds like the
tapes were done but were not called plunderphonics or fully
developed as such until after NWW had been releasing records for
several years.
just saying what it sounds like. never heard oswald's pre-NWW
work.
d.
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